Chinese Womens Gymnastics Team
Chinese gymnast He Kexin wears her gold medal for the uneven bars during the first Doha Gymnastics World Cup at the Aspire Academy in the Qatari capital of Doha on March 5, 2008. AFP PHOTO/KARIM JAAFAR (Photo credit should read KARIM JAAFAR/AFP/Getty Images)
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(L-R) Silver medallist Nastia Liukin of the U.S., gold medallist Shawn Johnson of the U.S. and bronze medallist Cheng Fei of China pose during the medal presentation ceremony for the gymnastics women's beam final at the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games August 19, 2008. REUTERS/Reinhard Krause (CHINA)
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China's Li Shanshan falls as she competes in the women's balance beam final of the artistic gymnastics event of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing on August 19, 2008. United States' Shawn Johnson won the gold, United States' Nastia Liukin the silver and China's Fei Cheng the bronze. AFP PHOTO / LLUIS GENE (Photo credit should read LLUIS GENE/AFP/Getty Images)
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China's Li Shanshan competes in the women's balance beam final of the artistic gymnastics event of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing on August 19, 2008. United States' Shawn Johnson won the gold, United States' Nastia Liukin the silver and China's Fei Cheng the bronze. AFP PHOTO / LLUIS GENE (Photo credit should read LLUIS GENE/AFP/Getty Images)
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Cheng Fei
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Cheng Fei
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Cheng Fei
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Cheng Fei
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BEIJING - AUGUST 19: Cheng Fei of China competes during the Women's Beam Final at the National Indoor Stadium on Day 11 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 19, 2008 in Beijing, China. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Cheng Fei
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News organizations have reported that she's 14 -- which would make her two years too young to compete under Olympic rules -- and the eyeball test tells us that she doesn't look 16, which is how old the Chinese government claims she is.
Now the International Olympic Committee says it's going to investigate. The Times of London reports:
The investigation was triggered as a US computer expert claimed today to have uncovered Chinese government documents that he says prove she is only 14 - making her ineligible to compete in the Olympics - rather than 16, as officials in Beijing insist is her age.The International Olympic Committee has taken a "see no evil, hear no evil" approach to China during the Games, but it's long past time for this investigation to commence. The evidence appears strong that He is too young to compete. That means she should be disqualified, and the silver medalists (the Americans in the team competition and Nastia Liukin in the uneven bars) deserve the gold.Mike Walker, a computer security expert, told The Times how he tracked down two documents that he says had been removed from a Chinese government website. The documents, he said, stated that He's birth date was January 1 1994 - making her 14 - and not January 1 1992, which is printed in her passport.

























Reader Comments (Page 1 of 42)
8-21-2008 @ 7:16PM
Bland said...
Considering how the judging transpired, I'm skeptical of a Real investigation. But, it is definetly needed. It is unfortunate that the investigation has to take place.
If found that they were fraudulent, it would be such a travesty. Not only would it expose and hurt the government but it will have a negative effect on all chinese people.
Pride is a sad thing!
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8-21-2008 @ 9:36PM
Linnie said...
I agree that it is a sad thing, but the even sadder position is that they would think committing fraud brings pride. The two do not equal each other and those "kids" out there who have poured their hearts out for something they love are the ones who are hurt.
Yes, we are dissapointed, but those that competed are left with anything but fairness, accomplishment and sportsmanship.
My own fear is that this will turn ugly - the element of trust being gone - an us against them at a level other then just competing....
8-22-2008 @ 10:52AM
mdud said...
I agree it is all a "sad thing"....
Whichever country's athlete doesn't win, raises issues against those who do win. The only reason Bela Karoly is upset is because he didn't get to use them and win(which he would have)...
Also looking back to the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, it seems I remember a Korean athlete truly winning on points in the men's all-around, but they had incorrectly given the medal to Paul Hamm of the USA. Hamm didn't earn the Gold, he didn't deserve the Gold, yet he STOLE the Gold from the Korean with no problem whatsoever. He didn't give it back to the person who earned it. Sad...
Where was his character, his coaches character, and the character of anyone close to him???? What a joke the whole thing is! Subjective sports suck! Anything that is judged by stuck up, paid off judges is a waste of the athletes time, and the fans time.
Whoever is cutest, whoever's country it is, or whichever parent's have "donated" the most money to "Gymnastics USA" will continue to win medals and think they WON something.
Now THAT is sad....
8-22-2008 @ 7:44PM
Lisa said...
If this were America- do you think here would be a "see no evil" atittude? Rules are rules, and ALL should abide by them. If China did, indeed, break the rules- they should have realized they may get caught and be willing to pay the consequences for their deception. Above all- the Olympics are for the efforts of athletes, and those that deserve reward- should get it.
8-21-2008 @ 10:55PM
Brandon said...
yeah the judging was a little easy on some of the chinese women gymnasts. even big steps didn't seem to lower the score as much as it did for americans and other countries.
8-21-2008 @ 11:37PM
JBGood said...
The judging was terrible across the board for these games. The judging for the Womens Gym was the worst.
8-21-2008 @ 11:16PM
??? said...
Even if she is to young she still won. Age is but a number it means nothing. I say whats done is done. If you were Nastia would you want that medal knowing you are not the best? Just getting it because of DQ. I highly doubt it
8-22-2008 @ 12:53AM
BOB said...
It is indeed a shame that a government would exploit children in the name of national pride. I don't know who is worse the government ( china) or the olympic judges. Bias judging backed by rotten officals from host country hurts all the athletes. Please don't blame the "child" as we all know how china really treats it's people. All this has left such a bad taste in my mouth I'm not going to watch any more of the olympics. Let china choke on all the medals.
8-22-2008 @ 12:16AM
dori said...
i dont see what the big deal is with the olympics. so what if their the best in their country, big whoop. They do it for the fame and the cash, they're not ending world hunger. They aren't lowering gas prices. So why do ppl spend their time watching crap like that. Seriously
8-22-2008 @ 12:14AM
Crystal said...
Well, ???, Nastia actually was the best, but the scoring is all freaky now... she totally should have won...
8-22-2008 @ 6:18PM
Frank Peace said...
China will not care how they get medals all they want is to e make everyone look bad. They want into the 21'st century but don't want to be fair not only to the world but to it's own people. It's to bad but they still hold grudges and still have that superrior than thou attitude and don't want to look bad and they wont admitt the girl is under age. To bad so sad. Mao is still in control.
8-22-2008 @ 1:46AM
Fiona said...
Gymnastics is one of the only events I watch during the Olympics, and I was deeply upset at how these Olympics turned out for the women. The scoring never seemed right--often too low for gymnasts from other countries, and mistakes from the Chinese team members seemed to be overlooked one too many times. A lot of their gymnasts do look too young for the age they claim to be, but it's tricky--this is common in gymnastics. After all, at 5'5" Svetlana Khorkina was considered a giant. Some people are saying that age isn't anything but a number and that it would actually be embarrassing to find out that a bunch of underage girls beat the US team, but what a lot of people who aren't familiar with gymnastics don't know is that the older you are, the harder it is to perform those difficult tricks. And unfortunately in this sport, 20 is considered old. While I do suspect that something about the entire competition was a little fishy, I admit I wouldn't know what to say if it turned out that all our suspicions were wrong and that China did everything fairly. I just hope everything gets settled out.
8-22-2008 @ 8:40PM
Rose said...
Cheating is cheating. It really doesn't need an explanation. If she's too young, it's cheating! Take the medal away.
8-22-2008 @ 2:53AM
LOUIS said...
HERE IS AN INTERESTING TWIST TO THE AGE ISSUE....IN CHINESE TRADITION, BABY AT BIRTH CONSIDER A YEAR OLD....UNLIKE WESTERN STANDARD, A BABY REACH HIS/HERS FIRST BIRTHDAY IS ONE YEAR OLD....
THIS MIGHT EXPLAINS AGE DISCRIPENCY.....
8-22-2008 @ 2:55AM
EXC said...
Whether or not this is fraud is a mattrer of perception. Traditionally, Chinese considered themselves 1 year old when they were born, and they all became a year older on Chinese New Year's day. So if Chinese New Year was on Jan. 1 and a child was born on Dec. 31, they would be conted 2 years old on Jan. 1, but by Western measure would only be 2 days old. This isn't comon practice any more, but it could be used to bend the rules and call a 14 year old 16.
8-21-2008 @ 7:17PM
Gary said...
If it is determined that He is under age, then well it is a sad day for the China women's gymnastics team. Why would anyone want to cheat? The Olympics should be about ethics and sportsmanship. Champions from all countries should be cheered and celebrated by everyone for their hard work and dedication. The jury is still out, but rules should be followed. Honor is more important than winning.
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8-21-2008 @ 11:48PM
cher said...
If she was proved to be 14 china will be proven to be the cheats we thought they were, its illegal to have a 14 yr old compete in Olympics..and if you dont realize that you need to educate yourself...this is a travesty, since many ppl thought they would pull this crap and sure enough they did across the board in gymnastics, this isnt sportmanship its cheating period...they have no right to gold or anythng else if this is what they did, but everyone is keeping silent becaUse of Chinas PRIDE...they dont want to ruffle anyones feathers..how sad for the rest of the athletes that compete legally and fairly and have to be subjected to this ...typical of this country to pull this...ie: human right violators among many other things that are unsavory ...disgraceful
8-22-2008 @ 12:35AM
Matt said...
Well lets break down the ruling here from an indifferent logical standpoint. Why is the age limit a rule?...
Plausible answer, difficulty, you wouldn't allow a four year old to learn to hunt with a shotgun because the gun would be to hard for him to use. The fact that shes under age only strengthens the fact she deserves a medal, she is that good at that age.
As for rules themselves, I'm no criminal but rules do need to change. Killing someone with a knife is murder, no accidents.
Killing someone because you couldn't hold the tension on a bowstring can be seen as something different. The copyright laws in general need to constantly change, in the sixties steeling an album meant Physically taking a record, now it means to leave the owners copy intact and creating an exact replica in the same binary format as the original in a mechanical method (downloading) everything is subject to change upon situation, Including rules.
Honor is something completely different with a close relation to the modern word "Spirit" it is different for every person. But it can be described as you're ability to not be embarrassed where ever you go.
If you've read all of this at least try to understand it.
8-21-2008 @ 7:20PM
Matthew Little said...
This does not surprise me, but it does enrage me..While everyone else sticks to the rules, the IOC wants to turn it's head for money (which is now dirty money). And if the IOC does nothing, they can never again be a respected body to officially govern any Olympic here after. It's disgusting that they would choose to do nothing because it's the host country...and all they are doing is setting a precident for all host countrys. The IOC is saying it is Okay for the host country to cheat, and the more money you throw at the IOC, the better treatment you will get...We have also seen judges not being fair to the competitors, and again, not in the spirit of the Olympics...SPIRIT, this is something that China needs to learn...and if the Government of China would allow Christianity and opinions to spread, they would understand what SPIRIT meant, and would not have done what they did...Eventually China will be forgiven for cheating, but they will never be forgiven if the IOC does not act on the information that it has. This has cast a Dark Cloud on the Olympics, and the Olympics credibility will be irreplaceably damaged...The only way to restore the credibility is to let the truth come out...Because the Truth will set you Free...Let's hope the IOC makes the right decision, and let's hope China has the HONOUR to step forward and say "hey, we made a mistake, forgive us." I don't think China has that in them to do that, so it will be up to the IOC to do that....
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8-21-2008 @ 9:26PM
Nancy said...
Thank you..you said it perfectly.